Examination of Witnesses (Questions 5060
5060. LORD BROOKE OF ALVERTHORPE: I think
we are finding the difficulties that do arise on the issue of
communications and participation and one of our problems here
on our side has been trying to understand why at least one body
which seemingly has been established following the Commons hearings,
the liaison panel, is not communicating formally in the sense
of sitting down and getting on with the business and dealing with
some of these topics with Crossrail and the borough council. Would
you participate in that?
5061. DR PEDRETTI: I would participate
in any attempt to make things better for the community as a whole.
I would not participate in something which has, to the say the
least, its difficulties. There are structural problems with that
thing, terrible structural problems. I do not know how to put
it. I tried to address those by writing to them, saying that I
did not feel I could represent a community but I would like to
participate. Even that statement was misrepresented on their list
of people that they were, so if you cannot actually put things
through and say there is a problem about the community and they
will just assume that you are --- I can only speak for myself
is the bottom line on that.
5062. CHAIRMAN: Yes, you are very lucky
to be able to do so because you are not a Petitioner. Which is
5063. DR PEDRETTI: Thank you. 25 Princelet
5064. CHAIRMAN: I do not know whether
that was mentioned by Mr Wheeler.
5065. DR PEDRETTI: It was mentioned as
the only one that had an internal survey. If I may add to the
whole survey thing my house is only one room deep. It is a double-fronted,
one room deep house. Even though we had this supposed internal
survey, the communications between Alan Baxter's survey and the
Mott McDonald survey was such that they could not convey that
my house is only one room deep. Therefore, I get a structural
historic building survey which assumes this kind of a structure
with a tunnel approximately here (Indicating). Sorry, this kind
of a structure with a tunnel approximately here, when in my fact
my house is only half of this book wide with the tunnel approximately
here (Indicating). To me, all this effort that has gone into discussing
highly detailed structural surveys has never meant anything whatsoever
simply because the level of guesswork, at its best, or uninterestedness
at its worst is such that --- I trained as an architect and my
Petition was about the design process and about how in order to
design something that will stand up and work we learned at architecture
school, you look at this way, you look at this way, you find out
the best possible solution. You reject five possible solutions
before you come up with the sixth one. I find that this processone
more secondthat I have had to look at for the last four
years, it has wasted a great deal of my time, is designed to get
railways through the houses before designing the railway. It is
designed to get the Bill passed before they actually start making
the railway work and that just does not make sense and a whole
lot of the things like this inaccurate survey of my building or
the fact that I have been addressed as living in a vacant property,
although I am there, there are contradictions because they do
not make sense.
5066. CHAIRMAN: There are limits to how
long somebody can go on who is not a Petitioner. We have got the
details of 25 Princelet Street. It is in one of the papers that
has been discussed. Mr Wheeler presented it.
5067. DR PEDRETTI: It is very strange
because I did not get those details.
5068. CHAIRMAN: It says your house is
one-room deep. Since then, there has been a great deal of explanation
about what the process of investigating all the listed buildingsand
indeed the other onesis going to be, quite apart from what
it has so far been. Also there was the opportunity, if anybody
wanted to, to ask Professor Mair, who is a worldwide expert on
settlement, what might be the effect on particular buildings.
That was the opportunity to put points about a particular house.
5069. DR PEDRETTI: I was not aware of
5070. CHAIRMAN: You would not have been
allowed to ask questions because you are not a Petitioner but
Mr Wheeler could have done. We would have been very pleased if
he had come and asked questions. But he did not.
5071. DR PEDRETTI: He probably was not
aware of it either.
5072. CHAIRMAN: Oh, yes, he was. Yes,
he was. There is nothing much more I can do about this. The message
5073. DR PEDRETTI: I am sorry, one-room
deep may be in the Alan Baxter report.
5074. CHAIRMAN: No, it is in his own
5075. DR PEDRETTI: I was referring to
the calculated, Mott MacDonald, supposed structural surveys of
5076. CHAIRMAN: Yes, that is what it
5077. DR PEDRETTI: The depth of my building
is at least twice the depth of my actual building. They calculated
something which is entirely not the same ground plan.
5078. CHAIRMAN: They have not calculated
anything. That is a process that can be done by the use of expert
opinion when the structure has been looked at. That is what we
were talking about with Professor Mair. That was the whole point
about having him here, so that people could ask questions. There
5079. DR PEDRETTI: We are now into a
difficulty to do with time, in terms of: Do we survey things to
know that it is safe to put a line through there or do we survey
things to fix them after they have been cracked? What are we doing?