Select Committee on the Crossrail Bill Minutes of Evidence


Examination of Witnesses (Questions 6040 - 6059)

  6040. MS JONES: Thank you. At the end of those negotiations, would you like me to come back—I think you have offered a date—rather than come back in writing?

  6041. CHAIRMAN: I think the best thing to do is to communicate with our Clerk and say what is the situation, because I do not know what the timescale will be; I do not know how much time we will have, but if you can do it primarily through communicating with our Clerk that would be the most helpful way. Tell us what is going on.

  6042. MS JONES: Thank you very much.

  6043. MR MOULD: My Lord, just in relation to that, we will certainly, for our part, seek to pursue matters with two thoughts in mind: one, that so far as we possibly can we shall seek to deal with matters in writing, so that your Committee can receive a written response rather than have to have further oral debate. We will also be seeking, for our part, as far as possible, to bring these matters to a conclusion sooner rather than later. We would like, if there is to be any further hearing in relation to this, that it should take place as soon as is reasonably possible, and I am sure that your Committee would echo that thought.

  6044. CHAIRMAN: We would like that too.

  6045. MR MOULD: Thank you.

  6046. CHAIRMAN: I think that is as far as we can take Ms Jones's Petition this afternoon. Mr Mould, there is one other thing that I wanted to ask you: you did not think that, in the ruling that I gave this morning, I had been entirely accurate about the engineering problems on Route B.

  6047. MR MOULD: It was to do with the date on which we had effectively decided that Route B was not a runner.

  6048. CHAIRMAN: I think I put that in; that was in 2001, but I also put in a passage which I derived from the Mott MacDonald study, which was dated March 2005, and was given me by Mr Horton. I was looking at a thing called the "Woodseer Street Line" which, I am told by you, is not Route B.

  6049. MR MOULD: It is not Route B, no.

  6050. CHAIRMAN: All the same, in order to get this ruling finalised, I would quite like to know whether there is some document which raises the question of engineering problems—track curvature, maintenance, carriage wheels and speed limits (that sort of thing)—if Route B were adopted. There probably is such a document but there is a good deal of paper in this Committee. I am not expecting it today.

  6051. MR MOULD: Mr Berryman is telling me pretty categorically that there is no such document which addresses those points specifically in relation to Route B.

  6052. CHAIRMAN: I see. In that case it may be very much better just to strike that part of the ruling out.

  6053. MR MOULD: I think that is right, if I may say so.

  6054. CHAIRMAN: I will look at it and it may be that we can revise that, in which case we will get it on to the transcript what has been the ultimate solution to the whole thing.

  6055. MR MOULD: Yes. If your Lordship is content to deal with that at your end of the room, as it were, then I, for my part, would be quite happy for that to happen in that way.

  6056. CHAIRMAN: If there is no document, there is no document.

  6057. MR MOULD: Quite. Jolly good. Thank you.

  6058. CHAIRMAN: What is going to happen tomorrow?

  6059. MS LIEVEN: Tomorrow, my Lord, we have the Canary Wharf Group coming.



 
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