Select Committee on the Crossrail Bill Minutes of Evidence

Examination of Witnesses (Questions 10860 - 10879)

  10860. On the eastern side of Lindsey Street.
  (Mr Berryman) On the eastern side of Lindsay Street.

  10861. MR MOULD: Thank you very much indeed, Mr Berryman.

  10862. LORD BROOKE OF ALVERTHORPE: I have a couple of questions, just picking that up. Presumably the market does not work at the weekend?
  (Mr Berryman) I am afraid I do not know, my Lord.

  10863. You will know the answer to the next question: will you be working at the weekend?
  (Mr Berryman) We will be working on Saturday mornings, my Lord. Those are the normal working hours. Sundays and so on, apart from tunnelling operations, will be just for maintenance and non-noisy, non-heavy work.

  10864. How long will you be working on site—months, years?
  (Mr Berryman) Years, I fear. After we have finished building the station, of course, there will be a development above the site of the station, so it will probably be a period of five or six years, in total.

  10865. No work on Saturday afternoons and Sundays?
  (Mr Berryman) Those are our core working hours and that can only be varied by agreement with the local authority.

  10866. The answer is no working on Saturday afternoons and Sundays?
  (Mr Berryman) Unless by agreement with the local authority, my Lord.

  10867. Is there is a desire on your part, in the first instance, to ask the local authority for their agreement.
  (Mr Berryman) I would not like to give such a promise because although the contract will be let on the basis of no working on Saturdays or Sundays, events may militate that it is necessary to do so.

  10868. So it is not planned at the moment?
  (Mr Berryman) It is not planned at the moment, certainly, no.

Cross-examined by MR DINGEMANS

  10869. MR DINGEMANS: May I ask a few questions? Mr Berryman, your current proposals in relation to Lindsey Street, where you said the hoarding would be to the right-hand side as we look at it of the parking bays which are furthest from the market. That is if the escalator is not built under the market, is that right?

  (Mr Berryman) That is correct, yes.

  10870. At the moment, the Bill still makes provision for the nominated undertaker and the Promoter to build under the market. It gives them those powers, does it not?
  (Mr Berryman) It does, that is correct, although you will understand, as a lawyer, the meaning of the expression "best endeavours". We will not be doing that unless something completely—

  10871. If you then have to do it you will be falling back on those compensation provisions that you say are adequate for us to deal with at the moment.
  (Mr Berryman) Yes, I believe so.

  10872. So far as parking bays are concerned, on any basis you are going to take—if we look at the east market—the parking under that area, leaving the west market for the market. Is that right?
  (Mr Berryman) We are, yes. There are two floors of parking under here and we will be taking one of them. So these two floors will still be here and one floor will be here.

  10873. That, as a matter of common-sense, is going to affect the number of people that can get in and out of the market readily, is it not?
  (Mr Berryman) Yes. My understanding is that these car parks are rarely full, or even partially full at night. Yes, you are right, of course, it would affect the parking availability.

  10874. So far as dust suppression is concerned (I will not take you through clause 7 of the deed), at the moment there is no trigger level, is there?
  (Mr Berryman) No, there is not; that will need to be set by the local authority, in accordance with—

  10875. This is right, is it not: that the Promoter has resisted an undertaking that if dust levels rise to a certain amount that affects the working of the market they will agree to stop work?
  (Mr Berryman) I think "agree to stop working" is something which will be quite difficult. What we are going to do is agree to take the necessary steps to rectify the situation. The reason I say that is that there are many construction activities which once they have started, if you stop them, it is quite dangerous. That is why we would be very reluctant to give that kind of undertaking.

  10876. The reality is—and I think you have fairly said this in your evidence—this is a worksite that is going to exist for a number of years.
  (Mr Berryman) Oh yes. That is right.

  10877. Things being what they are and dust suppression measures being operated by humans, from time to time there are going to be failures in those operations, are there not?
  (Mr Berryman) We certainly strive to avoid that, but it is always possible.

  10878. MR DINGEMANS: Thank you very much.

  10879. MR MOULD: There are no questions from me.

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